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The Safari that comes with the 2.0/2.1 firmware has the ability to save images. Hold your finger over an image for ~2 seconds and you will be prompted to save the image. I don't know if it works with the images on viewmymessage.com, but it does work with the AT&T logo on the page (I have an iPod touch, not an iPhone, but I imagine that anything my touch can do, the iPhone should be able to do, as the software is nearly identical)

I'm in the minority who aren't phased by the iPhone's lack of MMS support.
When Apple have MobileMe working properly, eMail notification will be as responsive as MMS on other Handsets.

What we need are the Service Providers to have some sort of MMS-IMAP service and iPhone Mail to be able to handle all the Media formats of MMS.

It would be much more elegant than viewing your MMS messages on a non-interactive Webpage.

That's probably also one thing I forgot to mention about not getting the iPhone. Here in Asia, MMS is used a lot specially with the proliferation of cheap, low res camera phones. It's just the easiest way to show someone something instantly. And everyone most probably has MMS support on their phones but not email.

As for viewing MMS via iPhone's Safari. It's quite possible that you don't key in anything to access your account as long as you're using the carrier's WAP/WEB gateway. They have the ability to detect that you're using your phone to access the site so it doesn't need to authenticate.

I managed 3 revs of Treo's MMS client. The carriers totally botched this standard. It's too complicated to begin with. Each carrier has their own customizations. Add to this inter-carrier compatibility madness and you have a world of hurt (to paraphrase his Steveness).

I agree that your iPhone should "receive" MMS messages better than it does. But MMS authoring is a slippery slope to madness.

My money is that Apple took one look at the AT&T MMS requirements and said "Our phone will not support this crap." And AT&T said "OK" if for no other reason than they weren't originally on the hook for subsidization.

This is one of those times when Apple made a large "less is more" decision that ultimately made the product much better.

Very well stated argument. I honestly don't get why Apple won't do MMS. And I have spoken to several AT&T employees and they told me this was not AT&T's doing, it was solely Apple's request. It just makes no sense.

Bloody annoying not having MMS.. I have been using it for 5 years here in Australia and suddenly the greatest phone comes out and it doesn't support it. A picture is worth 1000 words.. who wants to be typing away on their phone instead of enjoying their environment...

I won't buy an iphone until it has it and it is frustrating the shit out of me... It's a great way to instantly show people a restaurant.. a product you are buying.. the nice view you are seeing.. apple need to get the hell onto this ASAP!

The phone is capable of being programmed to do anything, it is just up to apple to DO IT..

This has been a feature I've been wanting for my iPhone from the day I got the 1st gen model. With every update there's still a lingering hope they'll drop it in for us. Yet after a few minor updates and major updates. Nothing. Not even a mention of it. Apple is for all intents and purposes ignoring the issue. I'm sick of waiting around for it. I've been seriously considering getting a BlackBerry and selling off my iPhone. Its hard because otherwise I really do love my iPhone. This is really the only feature missing for me. My friends send me pics and vids all the time and using viewmymessage.com is ridiculous. Its considered a site for non-subscribers. WE are non-subscribers? And seriously, what's the big deal? That would add more functionality to it. Let us use MMS OR email it to our friends. Why not allow us the choice? Apple listened to the Enterprise when they wanted Exchange and other features, its time to listen to the consumers now!

Folks, MMS is a wonderful way to encourage viruses and other miscreant files. MMS does not integrate well with the iphoto manager on the iphone. additionally, all of the useless bits of information that come along with an mms message, wrapping the message in a cloak of identity, is too difficult to remove. Thus it is not included.

Now copy and paste? A different matter altogether.

I could care less for MMS. It costs way too much, plus I can Email for free, and check it anywhere in the world, no limit on picture size, which MMS does have.
Also I think it's funny how many sites quote the 60% increase in MMS use, when specific amounts aren't mentioned anywhere (not even in the original press release here: http://www.comscore.com/press/release.asp?press=2308)
An increase of the total amount of MMS users doesn't mean that much. (its _NOT_ 60% of all Mobile phone users)
Let's say there are 1 million mobile phone users.
It doesn't say anywhere how many people actually use MMS. So let's be over dramatic and say its only 100 people using MMS. If that increased to 160, you'd have your 60% increase. but still the total amount of MMS users is only 0.016% of the total of 1million mobile phone users.
My tip: Don't trust percentages if you don't know what they represent. Always check the numbers.
Now I know my example is exaggerated, but think about this: if the numbers WERE significant. And suddenly it increases by 60%, don't you think it would be much more popular? I can honestly I only used it once or twice on my old phone. And I don't know anyone who uses it regularly.

I do agree on your points about the viewmymessage.com service. Sounds like it could use some work (I've never used it).

Hello.

This is the most frustrating thing since my bank asked me to repeat my account number even though I'd already typed it in.

In the UK I have made a complaint to O2 since receiving the iPhone regarding this, I had no idea the feature was going to be missing.

They have referred me to Apple.

I am going to complain to Apple now.

We all need to complain, to force them somehow to at least make a statement as to WHY it's missing and WHEN it will be available, if ever - if they announce never, at least some of us can make a decision whether to stick with the iPhone or not.

It's not fair for all their customers to be in the dark.

So, is there some kind of petition (that is in direct communication with Apple) already started I'm wondering?

Let's start it!

Joe (joerichards AT gmail.com

FetchMMS.com

1) I cannot access ViewMyMessage on my iPhone. It just refuses to load. So any pictures sent to me have to wait until I get home to my computer.

2) Once I load the picture from ViewMymessage on my computer, I get a tiny little picture. (One time the password sent to me was wrong, and I was denied access to seeing the picture entirely! I've noticed that the password scheme is usually two four letter words separated by a number. When this password ended with a three-letter word and wouldn't let me in, I wondered what happened.0

3) You CAN save the picture, once you're at home. Just print to a PDF, and it will save as a nice large picture.

In Germany you can buy train tickets online via a website designed for mobile phones. Works perfectly. The problem is: You get the ticket (a barcode) as MMS. Which works perfectly with NEARLY all mobile phones :)
MMS is not only a nice thing for sending and receiving pictures, I suppose it is a minimum standard in any cell phone...

Michael Mullet I totally agree with you, the minimum is more important than the quantity !

Shamless self-promotion but we've got a workaround in the UK on O2 that lots of users are quite happy with... We're keen to bring it to other countries on other networks.

http://iphonemms.net/

It seems some of those those reading here cannot read.

It is similar to the same reasons you cannot just buy any phone to use with any carrier. The Telco does not WANT you to have that control

The reason Apple does not do MMS, is because ultimately, it is the CARRIERS problem.
And the interaction between various carriers, who may or may not wish to support their slightly different tweaks, or may wish to deny other carriers access to that aspect of their service, or may wish to try to nickel and dime their customers for the service.

At the root of the MMS problem, is that the MMS service is basically much like an email protocal, with the various carriers setting up email for you, and also, stripping those email like attributes so the user does not realize you are sending words and pictures to a server to be held until someone is ready to see them.

It is really not Apples problem to fix. Apple decided just to avoid the mess completely and use web standards, not purposely broken MMS protocals being used as swords in a fight between carriers.


MMS was omitted from the iPhone due to battery life concerns. MMS requires higher data usage, given the iPhone's 2 megapixel camera. Most other cell phones (non-iPhones) would not be able to handle the iPhone's pictures, resulting in wasted bandwidth and, more importantly, battery life. In order to provide a quality MMS experience, Apple would need to figure out a way to quickly and seamlessly down-size the picture on the phone to reduce the demand on the battery when transmitting the picture over the cell phone network. When they figure out how to do this, trust me they will release it in a software update. Meanwhile, why can't we forward text messages? And where the hell is copy-and-paste?

Hookmobile, O2, iPhoneMMS - for all their best intentions, are half-useless (along with a few other similar apps), can't RECEIVE MMS's on your iPhone. Shocking that Apple is being such a bunch of Pr**ks about not allowing MMS, but then again, it's Apple...the company who's otherwise excellent computer products are religated to a few niche markets because of inane business paradigms. I'm sure Swirly's submission to the app store was rejected, if they could get it to work, why not Apple? ATT could bypass the limitation by detecting and re-routing inbound text messages with MMS content to email rather than some hokey website that doesn't even have a mobile device interface, but either hasn't thought of it (like they haven't thought of calendar sync on Blackberry), doesn't care, or is afraid of Apple. They could even use a dedicated email address combined with a Hookmobile-like interface to provide seamless inbound/outbound MMS functionality without ACTUALLY doing MMS on the iPhone. I love my iPhone, but I'm frequently embasrrased by conversations like this one....

Me - Early adopter, techno geek, into the latest and best technologies.
Cro-Magnan - Utterly non technical, just discovered fire, owns a rotary-dial cell phone.

The typical conversation...
Cro-Magnan: U get cool pic me just send to phone?
Me: No, I have an iPhone, it doesn’t get MMS’s
Cro-Magnan: What is MMS? I no get note say u can’t get pic.
Me: Uh, yea…it doesn’t tell you I couldn’t get it, it just never gets delivered.
Cro-Magnan: Ugh! Why U pay 400 rocks and 40 rocks a month for iPhone then?
Me: Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Also, have to ask why????????

- No flash player (REALLY aggravating on a phone marketed as giving you the "REAL Internet")
- No Copy and Paste
- I want to call someone that just sent me a text, have to scroll through 4000 lines of conversation to reach the call button at the top, easier to just leave IM, go to Phone, look up in contacts and call...STUPID put a damn button at the bottom already.
- No Bluetooth headset support (HUH???)
- Crappy speakers (this is a music device, right? can barely hear it ring)
- Can't store other stuff on it (like a USB drive - would be handy)
- Can't sync or transfer via Bluetooth

I'm with you here!

I have had about 6 phones which supported MMS, how many times did I actually send messages? About three times!

You're completely correct about percentages, they are usually used in media reports in the very same way! How many people REALLY want MMS when there are so many other advantages to the phone, it's not there yet, but I predict the phone will have at least 25% GLOBAL market share by the end of 2012, proving the same spike of interest in year three of the iPods (once Mini & Nano were out!)Take a look at the graph half way down this page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod

at the growth of iPods. It will take the best part of three years, much like the iPod's growth for the proliferation into the mainstream mobile telecoms market. We, the early users of the iPod, are again at the beginning of the next big thing, we will
personally advertise the iPhone, pushing for friends, family, and all and sundry to buy this gadget.

The iPod now commands something like 80% of the Global MP3 player market (not inc. phones which play music!) and has been so deeply engrained into mainstream culture that most people actually use the phrase iPod over MP3 player even if it isn't an iPod (refer to the following, Hoover, Sony 'Walkman' etc!)

Having said this, the iPhone's growth is stunted in a way the iPod's growth was not, and this is in respect to third party carriers who need to be involved, and this takes more time (although having said this Apple do claim 70 countries by the end of this year!)

I, personally, have had two, the 2nd gen and 3G. I, was one of the few who went straight for the phone as soon as I could, but only due to my feelings about Apple. I would say I have been instrumental at 'prompting' at least 5-6 people to buy one after showing them mine. Within 18 months of the release in the UK, four best friends have bought, 2 work collegues and a bunch of wishlisters!

We are the ones who really sell the device, and if MMS still isn't on the phone after the next major software update, the numbers will continue to grow. Some people loved Betamax (better than VHS!) Some people Loved 8 TRACK (Better than tape!) Some people LOVED Laserdisc, need I go on..

We don't choose the route, we follow it, and if Apple aren't giving it to us, then there is a reason. I'm big on Apple and know that if they don't like, then I probably won't either!

Just email the damn pix, they'll get to see them eventually, even if it's the next time you see them in the pub and you show them the picture on your iPhone, the phone with the best Music player, the best Photo browser Application, the best iPod (MP3 player) and a whole bunch of the best Apps from 3rd Party Devs.

Nuff Said!

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